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- Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 15:04:49 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] refurbished Thinkpad X60 with Coreboot & Linux
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Edward Middleton writes: > As much as everyone likes to hate the unity interface it is pretty easy > for non technical users, IMNSHO more so then windows or osx ;) Sure. Wii is even easier yet. Your point is what, precisely? Mine is "non-technical users of *what*?" The people who hate Unity want to use their computers as general purpose information processors. Unity shines for those who only want to use two apps[1] by making the possibilities of general purpose computers fairly inaccessible, even if you know your way around computers pretty well. And it's very costly if you have a slow computer (eg, using Ubuntu, or even Fedora 19, in a VM from Parallels or VirtualBox on my aging (4 years old) MacBook Pro is just not acceptable). Why not just create a ~/bin, symlink the three recommended apps from there, and remove /bin and /usr/bin from normal users' PATH? I bet that would work just as well! IOW, that's great for keeping 6-year-olds occupied with Dobutsu-no- mori or whatever at minimum cost to Daddy. But it bothers me that my 16-year-old isn't much past the same level. I wish she had half as much interest in teaching pixels how to dance as she does in teaching her kohai. BTW, as an OSS economist, I have to say that the whole approach to Unity is scary. For example (from the Mir/Unity Next pages): October 2013 Unity Next & Mir window management are completely integrated with the rest of the system to support an Ubuntu Phone product. For the desktop/laptop form-factor, we want to fully replace X in user sessions and provide a legacy mode that allows to run legacy X clients against an on-demand rootless X server. A cascade of display servers/shells is implemented, with the session-level instances talking to a global system compositor instance, providing a flicker-free, tightly integrated and beautiful UX. But note that this is not compatible with X, nor Wayland, out of the box. It's the Mac OS X + Xquartz model. If you want to work cross- platform, you can't use the Unity/Mir stuff (only) -- you either have to support multiple backends or you have to invoke the compatibility layer. Translated into (US) English: Beavis: Hey, Butthead, that Unix fragmentation fiasco was fun! Butthead: Heh-heh, heh-heh. Yeah, Beavis, let's do that again! :-( Footnotes: [1] OK, a fairly small number, say up to about 20, most of which are pretty independent of each other.
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