Re: [tlug] Kubuntu 11.10 日本語入力 How?

[Lyle H Saxon <llletters@example.com>]

Gmail(?) muted my formatting - let me try again with some kind of
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Hi Ray - Re: "If it isn't working out for you, and you're going with
an entirely new distribution, then try Ubuntu again but install in
Japanese from the beginning..."
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Actually, that's exactly what I did!  But although the whole sytem and
all applications have Japanese menus, I haven't been able to get
Japanese input working.
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Re: "I have English menus but Japanese input."
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That's what I really want actually - but I've been going with
everything in Japanese both as an easy install and to force myself to
improve my Japanese reading skills.
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CL: Re: "That's odd.  The posted instructions worked for me and I was
going to add a 'thank you' when I had a moment free.  Inputting the
first two instructions in your post from the command line restored the
Ibus icon and, since my selections in ibus-settings were the way I
wanted them, I left those panels alone.  A reboot was all it took to
get me where I wanted to be."
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I'm glad to hear that was of some use.  I suspect that in tinkering
around with it, I ended up installing too much stuff and ended up with
things that got in each other's way?  As a temporary fix, I tossed in
an older version, which is working, but do want to get going with the
newer releases.
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Re: "As for other OS choices:  A couple of Kubuntu users I know are
trying out Debian 4 + KDE and say that once you've eliminated the
increased asshole factor of the proponents and melted all of the 'ice'
by installing proper versions, you have an OS with a look and feel
similar to Kubuntu but without some of the oddities."
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That sounds like it might be a plan.  I don't care for the direction
Ubuntu has taken with Unity.  It appears to be primarily designed for
small touch-screen devices (for which I wouldn't mind using it, but it
really sucks on a desktop computer).
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NO: Re: "In Ubuntu-jp mailing list, there is a thread that reports
recent IBus package can't work with Qt-based application. Does the
mail helps you?
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https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-jp/2011-November/003924.html "
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Possibly - I temporarly gave up on Kubuntu 11.10 with that machine,
but think I'll try this again on a test box and see if I can get
things to work.
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DJI: Re: "I realize this isn't for everyone, but I've been much
happier since I switched from packaged binary distros to Gentoo about
5 years ago. Gentoo draws the line between what I want to know as a
savvy user and what I don't want to have to know about what's going on
under the hood of my machine at a place that's just right for me
(personally)."
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Sounds like something I should try out on the test box and see if I
want to go in that direction.
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RW: Re: "Oh...forgot to add this to my previous e-mail:  I'm using
Ubuntu + Ibus + gnome.  I have never tried KDE before.  I know this
combination isn't working with KDE tools like kile, kdevelop, kate,
etc..."
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With one of the previous versions of Kubuntu I couldn't input Japanese
in Kate, but then it worked with 10.04.  When I had to have something
in Japanese in Kate, I'd type it elsewhere and copy-poste it in.  The
current problem seems to be no Japanese input anyway.
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RW: Re: "In short, please try to modify your /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/ibus file:
 - if [ -e /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/inputmethods/libqtim-ibus.so ]; then
 + if [ -e /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins/inputmethods/libqtim-ibus.so
]; then
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Thank you for this!!  *That* was easy...yes, it worked.  Of course, I
also had to install the ibus-qt4 package, but this change fixed a
problem that I have been accepting for a month or two...  Now I can
comment my source code in Japanese.  ;-)  Thank you!"
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Well, I'm glad the thread helped someone else out, since I'm still
fumbling around here!
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SS Re: "I tried unity with Ubuntu 11.10 for about a month with unity
thinking maybe I could get used to it.  Finally I stumbled on a thread
for getting the gnome legacy stuff working from gnome 3.  Essentially
all you had to do was add the gnome 3 libraries and reboot, then
select the legacy stuff at login like before.
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"The ibus 日本語入力 worked fine with both Unity and Gnome.
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"Long term I don't know where ubuntu is going but this gnome setup
close enough to gnome 2 that I'm happy for now.  Hopefully ubuntu will
realize how many of us dislike unity and give us what we want.  I saw
that Ubuntu 12.04 is out but am reluctant to touch it."
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Reluctant to touch it - yeah, that sums it up pretty well I think.
I'm only willing to try it out on a test box.  *If* it's less horrible
than 11.10, then I'll think about using it on a work machine.
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SJT: Re: "I was happier with Gentoo for a long time, but recently I've
become less happy."
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Hmm...  On one hand there's "Kaizen" and on the other "If it isn't
broken, don't fix it".  So much breakage done in the name of kaizen.
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Anyway - thanks for all the feedback everyone!
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Lyle
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