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- Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:58:07 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] (OT) The enigma of Japan (was: UNIX jobs on TLUG)
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JC Helary writes: > > On jeudi 04 juin 09, at 23:02, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > But democratically elected governments can't do it, not without > > risking everying in the next election. > > Investing in bullet train and electric cars ? Case in point. The Japanese got both of those wrong, overinvesting in bullet trains to nowhere (well, Niigata) and linear motor cars that will never reach top speed because there's not enough space between stations to accelerate, and underinvesting in electric cars because (short of coordinated promotion by the U.S. government or $500/bbl oil) they expect electric cars not to sell in the U.S. They're probably right, too. The rest of your list similarly consists of policies that are worth considering, but politically seem most likely to be led by industry, not government, when they do get introduced. Warning: TLUG relevance ahead! For a wonderful example of how *not* to lead your economy in a sane direction, you need look no farther than the "Fifth Generation Project" which was supposed to be entering the third decade of Japanese domination of knowledge engineering by now, but instead has given us fuzzy washing machines and refrigerators using DSP technology (says so right on the door). Somehow, though, the important innovations seem to have come from Finnish grad students out of favor with their profs, wacko Stanford undergrads, ad hoc Cabals and coalitions of webmasters, and nuclear physicists turned social network architects. And not only doesn't knowledge engineering exist yet, but there's a serious dearth of undergrad CS majors throughout Japan (at least, that's what Monkasho tells us). > Those would bring huge changes in life styles and are things > governements _only_ can do. Nonsense. Grameen Bank (of Bangladesh), although it's not as shiny as it was 10 years ago, was *not* a government initiative, contrary to the folklore you might hear in tribal rites in the hallowed halls of ENA. Sure, in theory governments have the resources to innovate, but in practice ... they don't do it. Or (damn, TLUG relevant again!) how about the global free software movement itself? Even in Europe the governments caught on only after we had already won (in the sense of there being not one, but a half- dozen thriving open source software platforms running on commodity hardware). > I can choose to grow my potatoes, but that will affect my life style > and mine only. There is still a huge surplus of rice in Japan that > bugs _everyone_ here. Uh, yes, but that's deliberate and popular policy in Japan (when properly weighted by the fact that farming districts have as few as 1/3 of the population of urban districts, but send the same number of representatives to Nagatacho). I gather that much of your difficulty here is that you simply don't grok "democracy". Or maybe you'd like to see a more "effective" form of government?
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