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- Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:46:52 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Giving a program priority briefly
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Curt Sampson writes: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > I would guess you would start to run into problems if you tried to > > scale this process into a team larger than 5 programmer members. > > Actually, I've scaled it up to eight with no problems. It could go > further. Hell, you could claim it's already scaled to many thousand, simply by listing all SF projects with one developer. The question is, have you scaled it in a project with complex dependencies among more than 5 programmers' areas of responsibilities? Since you talk about "stories" and "agile clients", I'd be willing to bet not. Note, I make no claims that you're not achieving great success with your process. Nor do I think it's an accident. However, there are a lot of tasks that it's simply not suited to in my opinion (eg, maintaining an Emacs or a kernel), and thus I object to the universal quantifiers implicit in the propositions about the "natural order of refactoring, functional improvement, and optimization" people have been tossing around. > On the other hand, what do I know? If you'd asked me whether or not > you could create a pretty darn solid and sophisticated OS kernel by > recruiting several hundred random not-so-sophisticated programmers > spread across the globe and letting them have at it in their spare time, > well, I wouldn't have had a lot of hope for the result. I still don't. It hasn't happened yet. Just because the lkml doesn't look like a SEI-certified CMM Level 5 shop doesn't mean that Linux doesn't have a superb group of project managers, top-notch engineers that anybody would be happy to have, and a very solid process.
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