Re: [tlug] Some UTF8 Japanese breaks out of vertical flow

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2007-06-02 (åææ) 13:19ãDave M G ãããæãããã:
> However, some text items, such as punctuation and small size Japanese
> characters (like ã or ã ), break out of the vertical flow and follow a
> left-to-right orientation.

This is a feature, not a bug.  In Japanese typesetting, certain characters are 
not allowed to come at the beginning of a line, including most punctuation as 
well as those small size characters.  The name for this is ãçååçã, and you 
can read about it on Wikipedia:
	http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%A6%81%E5%89%87
Note that this is standard in all Japanese language word processing and DTP 
applications, and the same behavior is observed: when the initial layout of 
text would result in a çååèæå to come at the beginning of a line, the 
offending character is moved to the end of the previous line, even if it runs 
into the margin.

Constraining the width of text blocks to 1ç is a pretty good hack for 
displaying vertical text, but it is far from perfect.  In addition to the
çååç problem that you have run into, the layout of punctuation and those small 
size characters is not correct (the position is off), since the font used is 
for horizontal text instead of vertical.

2007-06-03 (æææ) 18:39ãJim Breen ãããæãããã:
> It was cocked up with Firefox. I suspect the latter is trying to do
> something smart with the rendering. File a fault report. Tell 'em it works
> fine with IE.

Actually, Firefox is more correct than IE...  What we need is vertical text 
support.  There has been talk of supporting vertical text (not to mention ãã) 
for years; I would really like to see the mainstream browsers implement it!

Cheers, Travis