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[tlug] Re: Hotmail mail encoding
- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:58:14 +1000
- From: "Jim Breen" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Subject: [tlug] Re: Hotmail mail encoding
From: Stuart Luppescu <email@example.com>On æ—¥, 2007-04-22 at 14:40 +1000, Jim Breen wrote: > Wonder how thay got Hotmail to do that? Whenever I try Hotmail in Japanese > it just uses those horrible entity codes.
Well, when I forwarded the message from my wife's computer (with Outlook) the original headers were not preserved (and I'm too lazy to go upstairs and copy the info from her computer), but I sent myself a message from hotmail, and, mirabile dictu, gmail displays it correctly, but evolution just shows this:
Here are the headers from the message I sent to myself:
Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
No info on encoding or charset.
Could the fact that I set my default encoding in Firefox to UTF-8 be related to this?
No, those 読め ... are HTML/SGML codes for Unicode codepoints as decimal numbers. They are the lazy programmers hack around avoiding proper multilingual handling. Hotmail is a prime culprit, but there are others.
They presume that everyone is reading mail via a client that can/will treat everything as HTML. And stuff anyone who uses text-based clients. Since IE and Outlook will display things OK, why would they change?
From: Patrick Kellaher <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Kind of sounds to me like Evolution wasn't compiled with multi language support (--enable-nls), however it is hard to believe that this is the case now a days. What distro are you using? On the windows side, I can tell you I have had problems with shift_jis messages, however usually installing all the Asian language support files works, although I am going to guess that this has already been done.
Nothing to do with multi-language support; those entity codes are a sort-of non-language support. Yes the Evolution coders could decide to assume that a string of digits between "&#" and ";" represent a Unicode code-point, but it's throwing standards to the winds. I've been asked to support them in WWWJDIC's input interface, and I have refused on principle.
Jim -- Jim Breen Honorary Senior Research Fellow Clayton School of Information Technology, Monash University, VIC 3800, Australia http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/
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