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- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:52:31 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: [tlug] Re: Why the shirts? Why TLUG?
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Why the shirts? Good question. I have an answer, but you'll have to bear with me. So, Shannon, why are you trolling for an argument? Please, stop trolling. It just gets you disliked. And there is no need for argument. Put on your Nikes and Just Do It. You see, TLUG is a dis-organization of volunteers. We have some traditional activities (running the meetings, technical and nomikai), and services (the mailing list). Since the mailing list more or less defines membership, obviously that will get consensus support of subscribers, and there is no lack of competent volunteers. Nomikais (in some form) are a basic human need, so that's also a shoo-in. Everything else, including meeting content, is done by *an individual* who cares *positively* about getting that done. They say "let's" and TLUG being "rich enough" nobody says "I think that's inappropriate use of TLUG resources".[1] We take votes only for officers, yet things get done. (How now, Lao Tao!) Nomikais are an important part of that, in the sense that if you organize the work, I'll guarantee there will be a nomikai afterward, and a lot of work will be done by people who are really there for the company/beer, not the work. If *you* want to *do* something, with support from TLUG, I'm sure you would get it. Maybe not from me, directly, but I wouldn't oppose it. Maybe not as much as you would like or think you need. That's life in this vale of tears; if you are serious about getting as much as you would like, you act like Bill Gates. If being a robber baron is not an option for you, you're gonna have to do much of the work yourself. You say "Yes, there are a few rosy statements on the website about the objectives, but I've been assessing TLUG mostly by the members' behavior." Do you include behavior such as the volunteer service of members in disaster relief via Linux, writing books, developing software, installfests, other societies, etc? You should, because TLUG is at root an association *of* "people who do things like that". TLUG, at present, is not a "vehicle *for* doing things like that", though it could be ... if somebody wants to lead it that way. "Somebody" could be you. But ... I don't see that you've ever made a positive, concrete statement about what you want to do. If what you want to do is unclear to you, you could also (what a concept!) be a *presenter* and talk about what you've done. Then we could all take the implication that you'd like to do that, only more and better, maybe. Of course, you'll probably still have to take the lead on the actual doing, but maybe you get lucky, somebody else will get the fire lit under them. When put hypothetically, like "What if we held an installfest ...", sure, you will get answers like "... and nobody came? They won't come, you know." If you want this time to be different, put on your Nikes .... Some of the naysayers will help; some of your more fervent supporters won't. That's the way TLUG currently works. (I'll also add that IMO it works pretty well.) And *that* is why TLUG needs a T-shirt now. Because Zev wants us to have one, and is showing leadership in making it work. Footnotes: [1] Actually, they do, but then they leave. All hail wileyc!
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