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- Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:46:35 +0000
- From: "Fergal Daly" <fergal@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] linux in Japanese schools
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On 06/01/07, Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com> wrote:Now, I (perhaps naively) interpret "free beer" as "you don't have to pay money for it," and "free speech" as "you can do what you want." But it seems to me that the GPL can be summarized as, "the software will always be free of charge, and we place restrictions on the receivers to make that so," and the BSD licence can be summarised as, "you can do what you want with it, even charge people for variants." So wouldn't that mean that the GPL is "free as in beer," and the BSD license is "free as in speech"?
Why is it claimed that the GPL is "free as in speech" when it places more restrictions on the freedom of the users of the software than the BSD (or many other) open source licenses?
I think what you have done here is show that the "free as in speech" analogy does not hold particularly when you make detailed comparisons and I agree with you. Howeve I think the reason it's used is because free speech is a fundamental right and should be supported on principle even if you disagree with the speech. That is how RMS and the Free Software people feel about GPL style Freedom - they argue that the right to study and alter the source code should be qa fundamental right and that nobody has the right to ship you a binary with no chance of modification.
So while other licenses are more free for various interpretations of "free", they generally aren't the result of a principled stand taken by the authors of the license.
Perhaps you could stretch the analogy a bit and say that BSD is like speech that is entirely unrestricted, including the ability to freely lie, slander and generally say bad things without being held to account. That is not the kind of "free speech" that is supported by human rights advocates.
But really, forget the details and just think of the link between Free Software and Free Speech as opinions on fundamental rights rather than as things that work in roughly the same way,
F
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