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- Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 11:09:43 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] shell scripts
- References: <20040203100851.142B.B-ROBSON@example.com><87wu74tz0w.fsf@example.com><20040203162057.1435.B-ROBSON@example.com>
- Organization: The XEmacs Project
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>>>>> "Brett" == Brett Robson <b-robson@example.com> writes: Brett> You had me up to BSE, I mean BSD, then I suddenly lost Brett> interest. Last I checked the TLUG server was _not_ running Linux. Given the "I wish I had time" traffic that seems to be 95% of tlug-admin, I'm willing to bet we've still got you. ;-) I don't run BSD myself at the moment (except by accident of my Mac, which I bought for the GUI, not the underlying OS), but there's no question in my mind that Cal[1] deserves as much credit for the availability of free software today as GNU does; they're the ones who fought the legal battles[2] back when rms was a small voice crying from the bathroom at the AI Lab. Although one of the Bills (Joy or Jolitz, I forget) is on record as saying that GNU was the inspiration for the extension of the Berkeley software distribution from a random selection to a full operating system, McKusick doesn't seem to remember it that way in his essay in _Open Sources_. Rather, they seem to have responded to the threat from USL in the usual hacker way; they coded around it. And of course the BSD guys actually did produce a full usable-by-non- kernel-hackers OS, unlike GNU or Linus. It's a good thing that a guy with a kernel met up with an OS that lacked one. ;-) Brett> Emacs seems to be burned into an after-image. Brett> JIHAD! Nah. Some people can hack Emacs, some can't. Footnotes: [1] This is a Stanford PhD speaking; pay attention. No, not to the degree, to the _rivalry_. Dirty golden bear.... [2] You know, the ones that say that BSD "Unix" is entirely unencumbered by the copyright SCO alleges to own. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.
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