Re: [tlug] Re: locales

[David Eduardo Gomez "Noguera a.k.a. dabicho" <davidgn@example.com>]

> >> 
> >> What application are you trying to type in?
> >> 
> >> Can you give a few more details? Name of the application, version, ...
> >
> > gnome apps.
> > mainly, those i use the most, evolution, nautilus and galeon.
> > no text editor because there is none good enough yet.
> 
> I tried galeon-1.0.3 and
> 
>     LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 galeon
> 
> works for me. 
> 
> >> > I have Cyberbit bitstream, but it seems like its "config files" doesnt
> >> > know it has japanese fonts too.
> 
> The fonts which galeon uses for the menus, toolbars, widgets in the
> toolbars etc are setup in gtkrc. If you don't have your own ~/.gtkrc,
> one of the global files in /etc/gtk is used. Which one depends on
> the language you use. You can check yourself with 
> 
>      LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 strace -eopen galeon
> 
> If you want to make sure a certain font like the bitstream cyberbit is
> used for iso10646-1, you can specify the font in your own ~/.gtkrc, for
> example you can put the following in your ~/.gtkrc:
>

> style "gtk-default" {
> #       fontset = "-efont-biwidth-medium-r-normal--16-160-75-75-p-80-iso10646-1,-*-*-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*"
>        fontset = "-bitstream-bitstream cyberbit-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1,-*-*-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*"
> #       fontset = "-monotype-arial unicode ms-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1,-*-*-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*"
> #       fontset = "-gnu-unifont-medium-r-normal--16-160-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1,-*-*-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*"
> }
> class "GtkWidget" style "gtk-default"
> 
> Screen shots using the above ~/.gtkrc with one of the lines made
> active by removing the comment char:
> 
> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/screenshots/galeon-bitstream-cyberbit-utf-8.png
> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/screenshots/galeon-ms-arial-unicode-utf-8.png
> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/screenshots/galeon-efont-biwidth-utf-8.png
> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/screenshots/galeon-gnu-unifont-utf-8.png
> 
> You can see that it works.
> 
> Using the TrueType fonts 'Bitstream Cyberbit' or 'MS Arial Unicode'
> here makes the startup of galeon *very* slow because XFree86 renders
> all glyphs of a *proportional* TrueType font when opening it.  These
> fonts are proportional (the '-p-' in the XLFD) and they are
> huge. Unless you are using a fontserver, the whole X-server will hang
> while galeon is starting. On a slow machine this might take a minute.
> 
> On top of that the Bitstream Cyberbit font looks unbearably ugly.
> 
> MS Arial Unicode looks reasonably good, but same as with the Bitstream
> Cyberbit there is a problem with the spacing in the entry widget of
> Google. I don't know why.
> 
> The Unicode bitmap fonts 'efont-unicode' and 'gnu-unifont' load quite
> fast and produce quite good results.
>

Its very weird. Cyberbit in Nautilus looks just great.
why would that be?
I havent been able to work properly wit evolution though, if i set LC_CTYPE=ja_*.*, no matter what encoding a mail has,
it always mixes it with japanese when no pure ascii chars. If i have any
other encoding, i cant read japanese...

also, do you know of any way i can input unicode in two characters sets
at the "same time"? i.e. write a mail with japanese and spanish mixed.
yudit lets you do it, but inside itself. same with emacs. (though yudit
lets you use ttf)

> -- 
> Mike Fabian   <mfabian@example.com>   http://www.suse.de/~mfabian
> 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。
>