Re: [tlug] Selective mojibake email

["Glenn Evanish" <glenn@example.com>]

I had to send it unicode to tlug to make sure that it would display right on
that end.  Here's the same email as it was originally sent by Linux and
accessed from two systems.  Both say charset=ISO-8859-1 but they're
displayed differently, even though both browsers are set to Shift-JIS.
Don't know if this makes what's going on any clearer...
Glenn
W98SE-J + IE 5.0
Return-Path: <pancho@example.com>
Delivered-To: lefty@example.com
Received: (qmail 1873 invoked by alias); 28 Feb 2002 09:07:39 -0000
Delivered-To: alias-localdelivery-lefty@example.com
Received: (qmail 1868 invoked by uid 100); 28 Feb 2002 09:07:39 -0000
To: lefty@example.com
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93=FA=96{=8C=EA?=
Message-ID: <1014887258.3c7df35abd306@example.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 04:07:38 -0500 (EST)
From: pancho@example.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.7
X-Originating-IP: 192.168.1.3


日本語
W2K-E (Japanese enabled) + IE 5.5
Return-Path: <pancho@example.com>
Delivered-To: lefty@example.com
Received: (qmail 1873 invoked by alias); 28 Feb 2002 09:07:39 -0000
Delivered-To: alias-localdelivery-lefty@example.com
Received: (qmail 1868 invoked by uid 100); 28 Feb 2002 09:07:39 -0000
To: lefty@example.com
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93=FA=96{=8C=EA?=
Message-ID: <1014887258.3c7df35abd306@example.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 04:07:38 -0500 (EST)
From: pancho@example.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.7
X-Originating-IP: 192.168.1.3


“ú–{Œê




> I think the encoding of your e-mail here was utf8, but TLUG said it made
>I think the encoding of your e-mail here was utf8, but TLUG said it made
some alterations:
>X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by hikari.tlug.gr.jp id
g1S0dnk22858
>
> If your test e-mail doesn't exactly say what the encoding is, then maybe
> different readers make different guesses.
>
> Even if your e-mail does say what the encoding is, if it's Unicode then
> maybe some readers still try to guess some subset of Unicode, maybe they
use
> a font with Unicode encoding but the font doesn't include all of the
> necessary characters.

> > when I connected from a laptop running Japanese Win98SE with IE5.0 and
> > sent email with the subject line 日本語 and body text日本語 between test
> > accounts, everything displayed perfectly, even the subject line.  The
> > encoding was Shift-JIS.
> >
> > When I go to read the same or similar test email with other OSs and
> > browsers, though, I get mojibake.  日本語 becomes “ú{Œê .  I’ve tried
> > Win 2K-E, Win2K-J, Mac 9.x, IE 5.5, Netscape 4.7 all with Shift-JIS or
> > any other encoding option with similar results, although the encoding
> > obviously changes the style of mojibake.
>

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