RE: DNS woes

[Scott Stone <SStone@example.com>]

yeah, even windows disables all the services by default on the workstation
install :) :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jonathan Q [SMTP:jq@example.com]
> Sent:	Saturday, May 12, 2001 7:30 AM
> To:	tlug@example.com
> Subject:	Re: DNS woes
> 
> Jean-Christian Imbeault (jean_christian@example.com) wrote:
> 
> > I guess they assume that people with the know-how install servers and
> people 
> > with less know-how (average Joe) install workstations.
> 
> Which is exactly why a workstation should have no services enabled
> by default.  They're leaving the people with the least knowledge
> of both how and why they should disable services in the most 
> vulernable position - with lots of unnecessary services enabled.
> I have *all* services removed from /etc/xinetd.d removed, and
> the system works fine that way, so they really ought to disable
> them by default in any install.
> 
> > I can kind of understand their logic. Can you imagine how frustrated Joe
> 
> > would be if after doing a worstation installation he wasn't able to
> connect 
> > to the net? He'd just give up Linux right away ...
> 
> Connecting to the net really has nothing to do with whether or not
> you have all services disabled by default.  That has to do with setting
> up a dial-up connection, something you have to do anyway.
> And as a said before, the installer should include a step to 
> specifically enable any services you want enabled, and explain
> why you might or might not want to enable that service.  
> 
> > I know I would have given up in frustration ... figuring out that the 
> > services were disabled and how to enable them would have taken me too
> long. 
> > Actaully I woudn't have even known what a "service" was :) That's how
> much 
> > of a newbie I would have been.
> 
> I need to suggest that anyone installing any operating system should
> read enough documentation to know that prior to setting out.  Granted,
> lots of people don't, and the amount of pre-install documentation read
> tends to be inversely proportional to the general experience level of the
> person doing the install, but it's something people ought to do anyway.
> Slick installers are neat, and I enjoy them too - they make my job
> easier - but they do have a dark side, in that they encourage people
> with little experience to just do the install, and set them up for
> trouble by enabling all those services.  That's the main reason why
> there are so many owned Linux boxes all over the Internet - installers
> that consistently do The Wrong Thing.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
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