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- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>
- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:38:19 +0900 (JST)
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>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Cozens <simon@example.com> writes: Simon> Stephen J. Turnbull (lists.tlug): >> Exactly. djb's software is not open source. Read the license, >> or the explanation that most sites point to in lieu of a >> license. Simon> Hm. Ah. I can't find a license, but I can find something Simon> that says "you can modify this but if you distribute Simon> modified copies of it, you can't call it qmail or you have Simon> to get DJB's approval." First of all, IIRC, there was heated debate at the time over whether a substantially weaker clause would disqualify Perl's Artistic License from OSD compliance. Second, I couldn't find that in anything that was written by djb. At least according to http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html, you are not allowed to distribute modified copies. You cannot distribute binaries at all, except under conditions that I would consider unacceptably restrictive (ie, leaving too many openings to get sued), and you may not distribute modified sources. Note that source cannot even be modified to port to a new platform without djb's approval. This is not even close to the Artistic License. And I didn't see anything at all about changing the name. Is that in the source? If it is, I couldn't find it. http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html is the (presumably official) link, directly off the www.qmail.org index page and written in the first person by djb. It's reasonably fresh (considering the type of document, I wouldn't expect it to be modified very often), last modified in February. Third, since it's not a license, djb can change his mind and revoke it anytime. (He'd not be able to get damages for past use, I think, but he can surely prevent future use.) I'm sure he will not do so for use and verbatim redistribution, but I have no reason to believe he wouldn't for rather small source changes. AFAIK there is _no public license_. No public[1] license means not OSD-compliant. Period. If you know of a public license, of course that statement is inoperative. I'd like to hear about it, too. In any case, in the discussion in dist.html, djb makes it abundantly clear that this is not intended to be open source. I believe the web[2] FAQ says that to distribute "modified sources," what you must in fact do is distribute the originals with patch. But this is in a FAQ written by someone else, and maybe approved by djb at some time. Or not.... I wouldn't trust it. I would certainly consider the explicit, very restrictive, statements in dist.html more legally reliable than anything in the FAQ. Footnotes: [1] Strictly speaking, I mean a "transitive license" which requires the second party to grant the same rights to third parties. [2] The FAQ in the source says nothing about copying. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Next Meeting (w/ YLUG): June 16 (Fri) 19:00 Mizonoguchi Marui Family 12F Next Technical Meeting: July 8 (Sat) 13:30 Topic: TBA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- more info: http://www.tlug.gr.jp Sponsor: Global Online Japan
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