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- Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:12:34 +0900 (JST)
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>>>>> "Ulrike" == Ulrike Schmidt <ulrike@example.com> writes: Ulrike> The question is: do I want that or not? What can happen? Ulrike> It seems I need the new xserver to get X working ... Does Ulrike> that mean I have to get the newest debian version also? I Ulrike> don't mind, if it is stable .. is it? Actually, slink is quite old now. The next version of debian is `potato', which is "frozen", ie, just about to be released. It's quite stable; I highly recommend updating your whole distribution now. If you can get your hands on a potato CD, things are easy; just do it. (Back to your coffin, Chris, I know that (a) dpkg != manual and (b) Debian != Linux, OK?) If you are using the network and are short on disk space or time (you could end needing to download several hundred MB), and are using dselect, you may want to use the `H' (key names are case-sensitive) command to put packages on "hold". First, telinit S to get to single user and minimize the amount of running stuff that can get confused. The installers will probably want to futz with your network and with X (or do you have any X yet? I guess not); better to have daemons and stuff temporarily turned off. Use the o command to get the list sorted by urgency, then put ALL the "extra" and "optional" packages on hold. Then put ALL "doc" and "devel" packages on hold in Standard. What's left is probably manageable. If not, put all emacs-related (including my beloved XEmacs ;) and TeX-related packages on hold. dselect will not want to let you do this, it will keep throwing you into the "conflict resolution" screen :(. Just ignore its complaints by hitting `D' (for "Dammit, Do what I say!", I guess) to reset all packages to your intended state, then "Q" to quit conflict resolution. You'll have to do this every time you put a block on hold, and when you exit selection to go to install. To reverse the process, use the `G' key to unhold each group of packages, download them, and install in reverse order. It is safe to take a break from the process at any time, I think, but some packages may be unusable from your point of view because optional facilities you consider essential to your convenience have not yet been upgraded. I do not recommend upgrading to `woody', the current unstable distribution. I had few problems with potato (I moved to potato as soon as it was available), but woody has had a lot of dependency problems where a package I use a lot gets stalled for a while because the main package has been updated but some required library doesn't get released. It's also had a large number of problems with installation scripts etc. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Next Meeting (w/ YLUG): June 16 (Fri) 19:00 Mizonoguchi Marui Family 12F Next Technical Meeting: July 8 (Sat) 13:30 Topic: TBA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- more info: http://www.tlug.gr.jp Sponsor: Global Online Japan
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