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- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:50:00 +0900 (JST)
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>>>>> "Stuart" == Stuart Luppescu <s-luppescu@example.com> writes: Stuart> When I send mail to people with Japanese systems, they are Stuart> able to read the mail fine, it seems. However, when I send Stuart> mail to my wife, who uses US Windows 98, with Outlook with Stuart> the Japanese IME, it appears to her as dollar signs, Stuart> graphics symbols and alphanumeric characters. This is because your mail is going out in EUC-JP (I see your .signature has reverted to EUC-JP). As is typical of Japanese standards, EUC-JP (alone among the Asian EUC encodings if rumor is correct) _assumes_ that 8-bit characters are JIS. (All rumors that places like Beijing and Paris exist on the same Internet as the University of Tokyo should be ignored.) Japanese Windows of course makes the same mistake (that's why Japanese mail labeled as Croatian is correctly read by Japanese Outhouse Excess <DAVE_BARRY>I am NOT making this up!</DAVE_BARRY>). US Windows makes the equally ugly but (outside of Japan) much more plausible mistake of presuming ISO-8859-1. Thus the mojibake. You probably can't fix this reliably with a MIME header, since Outhose commonly ignores them in favor of its own prejudices. Stuart> Does anyone have any suggestions 1. Teach your wife to use Linux. 2. Teach GNU Emacs not to send mail in EUC (no guarantee, but will work with high probability). 3. Use TM (not recommended, it is no longer supported and has a long track record of screwing up other applications within Emacs). 4. Use Gnus with TM or SEMI. TM has the same problems as with normal Emacs Mail-mode, and SEMI-Gnus is known to do some very strange things on occasion (same author as TM; Tomo cares far more about the rights of characters (ie, moji) than he does about those of human readers). 5. Use Mew. 6. Learn Esperanto together. Then you can both suffer. ;-) 7. Manually convert the mail text to ISO-2022-JP (see the documentation for `encode-coding-region') and add the headers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-2022-jp (OK, OK, that's not very friendly. Add (defun mule-to-iso-2022-jp () (interactive) (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (if (search-forward mail-header-separator nil t) (encode-coding-region (point) (point-max) 'iso-2022-jp) (error "um, excuse me, but this doesn't seem to be a mail buffer!")))) (define-key global-map [(control ?c) (?i)] 'mule-to-iso-2022-jp) to your .emacs.) I probably should go back to work now.... but there's more where those came from. Stuart> (aside from using VM, which I can't use because my mail Stuart> server is IMAP)? Never say "can't" with respect to Emacs. ;-) One possibility would be to defeat VM's reading capabilities by putting (setq vm-auto-get-new-mail nil) in ~/.vm and using VM to send mail only. I believe that once you load VM, it customizes Mail mode to use VM functions. If not, put (define-key global-map [(control ?x) (?m)] 'vm-mail) in .emacs. That might actually work without loading VM, depending on how the autoloading is set up Emacs. Or use `(load-library "vm-mail")'. VM does IMAP now, but it treats it like POP3 and downloads it all. This might be unacceptable to you, but also might be worth a try. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules." -------------------------------------------------------------------- Next Nomikai Meeting: February 18 (Fri) 19:00 Tengu TokyoEkiMae Next Technical Meeting: March 11 (Sat) 13:00 Temple University Japan * Topic: TBD -------------------------------------------------------------------- more info: http://www.tlug.gr.jp Sponsor: Global Online Japan
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