Re: tlug: Locale problem

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>]

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tlug note from "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>
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After wondering about Perl's locale support, and getting an answer
from P. Gampe,

>>>>> Totoro  <riley@example.com> writes:

    Totoro> Thanks for a good tip. In digging around a bit, especially
    Totoro> in the doc file for the lib (duh...), I found out a couple
    Totoro> of bits, as in some info about locale. Well, I downloaded
    Totoro> a locale set (apparently the rpm did NOT include this) and

I believe[1] I fixed this with the nihongo-for-Netscape liblocale.so
hack.  I needed this because I sometimes run with LANG=ja_JP and the
like, and currently[2] there is no C locale support for Japan.

    Totoro> installed it. After exporting the language this time, the
    Totoro> perl errors disappeared. Have to check those rpm's more

Which is why switching to Debian made sense for me.  Debian messes up
occasionally, but when they do (1) you can fix it by hand[3], and (2)
they seem to be a lot more careful about dependencies than is
RedHat[4].

    Totoro> carefully before using them from now on. Well, anyhow, I
    Totoro> got to read up a lot on locale...

Don't recommend this, myself.  It's mostly a headache, and doesn't
always do what you want.  So localized and especially multilingual
applications need to do a lot of work themselves anyway.  Just learn
enough to shut up locale-ized applications like Perl.

Steve

Footnotes: [5]
[1]  That system is on a hard drive no longer available after a 3-day
scheduled University-wide power out.  I forgot, but sheesh, sometimes
one starts to believe one is living in a 1st world economy.
[2]  As of when I last installed a Debian system, about 3 weeks ago.
I went to the source looking for it.
[3]  Which is definitely not true of, eg, RedHat's installation
bootstrap (unlike Debian, you don't get a working Linux system on the
install floppy).
[4]  With a glaring exception in the X stuff.  Donno about comparison
with RedHat, but stuff like Arena, Netscape, and xv don't necessarily
get deinstalled if you remove X (hadda do it when I upgraded a system
to Debian `hamm' which uses libc6 which is incompatible with libc5.
"All hail hlu!")
[5]  If you like these footnotes, you should be using XEmacs 20.3!



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