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[tlug] What's the easiest way to edit EUC-JP files on a remote server from an Ubuntu 20.04 desktop?
- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:21:04 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <email@example.com>
- Subject: [tlug] What's the easiest way to edit EUC-JP files on a remote server from an Ubuntu 20.04 desktop?
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Edmund Edgar writes: > However, recently I upgraded the local machine to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, and it > doesn't appear to have kterm. Did you do this as an upgrade, or a new install? If it's an upgrade, your old kterm should still be there. Is the symptom that "which kterm" doesn't find it, or that "kterm &" doesn't get you a kterm? In the latter case, try "which kterm" -- if it's still there but won't run, installing/upgrading the package yourself might suffer the same problem. Delete package and install would be my first try. (Well, *I* would switch to xterm or rxvt, but I see the logic in sticking with kterm for you. :-) > I guess I could probably install kterm from source, but is there a > supported way to edit my files? Emacs will happily read one file in EUC, write another in ISO-2022-JP, display the editing buffer in UTF-8, and accept keyboard input in KOI8-U (doing all of that simultaneously takes a little effort on your part, a total of about 42 keystrokes not including documentation browsing ;-). And of course it natively supports remote editing by scp or ssh! (XEmacs does all of that and I have a local patch that mostly works to support WebDAV too. ;-) Support on emacs channels is good as long as the thought of meeting rms doesn't make you puke. Getting serious ... There's probably still a supported Ubuntu package for kterm that you can install with dpkg or apt or whatever the PMS is nowadays. xterm and rxvt now handle Unicode. I don't know whether Ubuntu's configuration does so by default, but if not it's easy to do. For xterm, X.org provides a utility called luit to support other encodings transparently. See the xterm documentation, options -lc and -en. luit should work for any X11-based terminal, I think, but much less transparently than xterm does. I don't know about rxvt's native capabilities / how to configure for non-UTF-8 encodings. Why rxvt? xterm is something of a pig, rxvt is much lighter-weight and advertises network optimizations that xterm may or may not implement. In current Debian, the appropriate package is "rxvt-unicode" (all the other rxvt* packages are now transitions to this one). Finally, there are all the fancy-schmancy terminal emulators: gnome-terminal, enlightment, and I'm sure in the 20 years since I tried anything but xterm or rxvt :-) others have been developed. They will all handle Unicode, but they may need a bit of bashing into EUC-ready shape. P.S. As Steve S mentioned, iconv is your friend. Again, I see your logic in staying with kterm, but a workflow where you work with UTF-8 versions and "promote" to production with "iconv -t euc-jp -f utf-8" provides a lot of flexibility in other aspects of the workflow.
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