Re: tlug: Re: Need info. about Japanese and Linux (OFF TOPIC!)

[Scott Stone <sstone@example.com>]

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

> >>>>> "Uchida" == Uchida Masatomo <Uchida.Masatomo@example.com> writes:
> 
>     Uchida> Fredric wrote:
>     >> There are two questions that are important to us: do You need a
>     >> GUI to sell machines? and does a GUI make any sense from the
>     >> operator point of view?
> 
>     Uchida>  I don't often use Linux console. Is it possible to show
>     Uchida> 'Trobule' in big red letters in your Console? Does console
>     Uchida> indicate where the trouble exists using some diagrams?
> 
> Yes and yes.  The Linux console is more than a TTY after all.  That's
> why kon works at all.  :-)

and SVGALIB.  And both require being setuid root to access the display,
and both have the usual run of security holes as a result (any svgalib app
does), so you wouldn't want either one on a server.


> 
>     Uchida> Generally speaking to add such functions, using X-window
>     Uchida> system is far easy than to stick to console.
> 
> That depends on how complex you want to get.  It's very easy to make a
> nice bitmap that can be displayed by a tool using SVGAlib while your
> GUI is out to lunch; that's what Windoze does in its startup sequence,
> after all.  And editing a bitmap that contains a map of the shop floor
> to have an arrow pointing to the trouble and displaying it with the
> same tool isn't hard.  Even Xerox machines do that nowadays....

the 2.2.0 kernel will have a kernel-level framebuffer driver.  and I've
heard tha it does display a penguin on startup, by default (which can
apparently be changed).

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Scott M. Stone <sstone@example.com, sstone@example.com>
Head of TurboLinux Development/Systems Administrator
Pacific HiTech, Inc (USA) / Pacific HiTech, KK (Japan)


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