Re: tlug: Re: Linux at Universities

[Karl-Max Wagner <karlmax@example.com>]

> Very glad to hear it.  Very sorry to report that the colleges and
> universities that I know about in the States--and just the couple that I
> know about in Japan--are rather different.  You'll find the Sun
> Workstations, et cetera, but the majority of the machines made available to
> the average student end-user are running Windoze (or in some increasingly
> isolated cases, Mac OS but still usually MS Word if not MS Office).  (Of
> course, you'll always be able to find Unix and variants--and what goes on
> in the comp sci and tech departments is rather different from what goes on
> in the rest of the University).

I have to admit that it was in the technical section - however,
other sections are rather Linuxified, too ( it is quite common
here that an economics student has to learn UNIX to do his
work ).

> I think they could learn it, fairly easily and readily, if their University
> or college would commit to it. Or simply install it on even a minority of
> the machines available to the general student population.  For that to
> happen (or happen more generally), the need is not to dumb down Linux, I

Frankly, I don't see any way to "dumb down Linux". Whatever you
do, it stays a high power OS - with the associated complexity.

> hope and believe, but to develop some more fairly standard applications
> (and yes, preferrably ones that are X-windows based and/or have a GUI).  

Yeah, at Fachhochschule before it was AfterStep, now it is KDE.
Fashions change.....

> This is a rough crowd!  But I thank Herr Wagner for his remarks, and I
> always look forward to and enjoy reading both his techniccal advice and his
> polemics against M$ and "lusers"  (even if he places me in that last
> category).

???? I never said so or implied so.

However, what I'm fed up with is that so many want power without
sufficient knowledge. This is a downright dangerous proposition
and much woe has come from people having power but no wisdom 
( just think of Hitler..... ). 

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