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- From: "Manuel M. T. Chakravarty" <chak@example.com>
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:48:24 +0900
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Chris Sekiya <chris@example.com> wrote, > On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > jb> If a proprietary product that good comes along, > > jb> then the Open Source authors, too, must innovate if they want > > jb> to maintain market share. That's competition. That's good. > > jb> That's the market system. That's good. > > > > Yeah, what he said. Chris? > > Hmmm. I'll take a stab at it. > > Most Open Source (as opposed to Free Software) coders wouldn't have > bothered to code if a similar product were available. Linus, too -- I > refer to his quote about the effect an available 386BSD would have had on > his initial Linux work. > > Real-world example: JWP. Used to be the best/only Japanese wapuro on > English Intel boxes. Source code was readily available. > > JWP died as soon as (hmmm, can't remember the name of the product -- > memory is going) became available. There was no longer any point to JWP > from the developer's point of view[1]. > > I fear that this will happen more and more frequently ... I don't think so; on the contrary, I think the recent popularity of Linux, in particular, and the Open Source model, in general, may cause the most profound change in the software industry ever. (And that is another reason why a widespread Linux is a Good Thing.) You have to see that the software industry as a whole is in considerable trouble since a long time. The problem is the method for developing software and has been called the `software crisis' for some time. Actually, this was one of the reasons why the discipline know as `software engineering' was founded, and I don't know how many software development and project management models have been invented since then. These days people are using the word software crisis not so often anymore, but not because there have been fundamental changes, but just because everybody started to accept the situation. Open Source might provide the paradigm change needed and, I think, people are starting to get this idea. The fact that IEEE Software (one of the major scientific publications concerned with software engineering) <http://computer.org/software/> does a special issue on Linux http://www.linuxresources.com/news/ieee-call.html tells a lot. Software is fundamentally different from other (wo)man-made `things'. Not only that you can copy it, but it is more complex than anything else. Industry may finally realize that the traditional closed development model, which works great for hardware, is inadequate for software. That is probably what esr is hoping for. But software project managers don't want to hear about another theory, they want to see hard results first. If Linux ever manages to be a serious threat - ie, loss of market share - to say NT, this would be a very convincing result, I guess. Cheers, Manuel -------------------------------------------------------------- Next Nomikai: 18 September, 19:30 Tengu TokyoEkiMae 03-3275-3691 Next Meeting: 10 October, Tokyo Station Yaesu central gate 12:30 -------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsor: PHT, makers of TurboLinux http://www.pht.co.jp
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