Re: Japanese locale and Fascists [was: tlug: Meeting August 2]

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>]

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tlug note from "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>
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Looking forward to the next TLUG meeting, but not altogether sorry I
missed the last one; my coauthor showed up with wife and daughter in
tow last Wednesday---two weeks after his last communication in which
he said "I'll probably be alone and haven't confirmed reservations
yet...."  Bikkuri shita!  Then my brother-in-law showed up Saturday as
I was showing Bob the door; at least o-nii-san gave us 36 hours'
notice :-)  A good time was had by all.

It was determined that FreeDOS (a DOS emulation distributed with
DOSemu) is not ready for prime time (so why is it included in the
Debian distribution?), and that DOSemu is still not ready to handle
some big DOS extended apps (an economic simulation package called
GAMS, in particular).  W95 multiboot continues (although even there
you have to reboot into MS-DOS for the PharLap version of GAMS, the
Watcom version will run in a full-screen DOS window but not in a
window---why not?  it's a text program!  Jeez, what a crock.)

By the way, my patch for XEmacs + XIM will be in XEmacs 20.3-b16;
localization is still far from satisfactory in XEmacs, but I'm
preparing to switch to XEmacs from GNU, as the font handling is
infinitely better, and it's nice to have X-Face etc.  And Martin
Buchholz seems pretty sure that this patch will handle the Xlib
crashes.  Evidently Sun Motif i18n has gotten a lot more stable than
before 20.1 when Motif was broken and Xlib sometimes worked, so Motif
is now the preferred widget library for the XIM implementation as far
as Martin is concerned.  But he "has no access to kinput2 or non-Sun
implementations of Xlib...".  No progress has been made on
incorporating any of Canna, Wnn, or XIM into LEIM :-(

Craig Oda wrote:

    >> Interesting.  I'm using Solaris and HP-UX as well.  I use CDE
    >> on both of them.  I know almost nothing about CDE though.
    >> There is a usenet group, comp.unix.cde (I think).  I posted
    >> once when I tried to get dtterm on Solaris to display kanji.  I
    >> don't have the Japanese version of Solaris.  I eventually gave
    >> up and installed kterm from source.

>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Dunham <dunham@example.com> replied:

    Steve> Yeah, they're a bunch of fascists... Apparently, Sun
    Steve> doesn't ship the japanese locale with normal Solaris
    Steve> (although they apparently ship chinese, korean, etc.)

If you know better, I'll bow to your greater knowledge, but my
suspicion is that probably Fujitsu owns the Japanese locale
technology, whereas Sun probably built the others more or less from
scratch, or paid some Chinese and Korean geniuses about 1% of the
market value for all rights to their ideas.  Ie, it's not Sun that is
fascistic, it's the Japanese firm.  But we already knew that....

Ciao
Steve T

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                            Stephen J. Turnbull
Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences                    Yaseppochi-Gumi
University of Tsukuba                      http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/
Tel: +81 (298) 53-5091;  Fax: 55-3849              turnbull@example.com
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