Re: [tlug] Vim Rebindings (was: Tex Editor Recommendations?)

[Chris Salisbury <chris.salisbury@example.com>]

flamebait caught a bite, let's go!

> And `s`/`cl` is...well, who uses that?

I guess your response reinforces by speculation that apparently it's just me. I agree with `S` and use it for save as well, but `s` is quite useful once you get used to it with counts -- superior to `cl` at any rate. Many times I end up using `ct<target letter>` and repeat with `;` if it's far enough away, but up to `5s` is generally something I want more than save because of its frequency.

> but Kakoune may be more efficient than Vim

Definitely not. Check out whatever editor golfing sites you prefer, kakoune is always behind by a statistically significant amount. And even if you think that golfing is too esoteric, just compare common idioms and kakoune is still always behind.

> we've spent more time recovering from me typing the wrong thing into Kakoune than we've saved on whatever it's supposed to provide in terms of extra efficiency

The main benefit for kakoune, et al. is that they have discoverability built in. It's not more efficient if you already know what you are doing in vim. This is great for beginners to learn what they're doing, but once you get used to it you don't want to have to see the equivalent of `vwd` instead of just doing the `dw` with no option to speed it up. It's the same reason that spacemacs has an easily configurable time limit on the help buffer that pops up after you press the leader key. If you know what you want to do, then the help buffer is an anti-feature.