Re: [tlug] Some UTF8 Japanese breaks out of vertical flow [SOLVED]

[Dave M G <martin@example.com>]

Stephen, Travis, Gernot,

Thank you all for responding.

I'm sorry if I missed some responses, or this email comes out of order. 
For some reason TLUG messages are not arriving in my inbox, and I'm 
having to look at the web archive to see responses.

Stephen wrote:
> Note that using the break-at-spaces method you will still be easily
> recognizable as a gaijin,
<silliness>
Oh no! That would be like... walking down the street!
</silliness>

> as the alignment of small size characters
> and punctuation, and the orientation of ellipses and dashes, should
> change for vertical use. 
Well, I can live without punctuation since it's just a menu. A minor 
constraint if I can end up with the design I want.

So if I can just get those small characters to work...

>  I haven't read it<wink>, but UTN #22
> (http://unicode.org/notes/tn22/) may be of use here. 
It was! Thank you for that link.

Slightly odd results. I tried using the HTML format for a zero sized 
space, &#8203; and it did force the small ã character onto the next 
line. But there was a visible gap, indicating a space character present, 
pushing the character too far to the right.

Just for comparison's sake, I tried putting in a regular space 
character. And that had satisfactory results. I'm guessing because the 
space gets stuck to the character above, and that leaves the small ã 
character to orient itself to left justification.

So the alignment of the small character is maybe not perfect as compared 
to a truly vertically aligned font would do. It's a little more distant 
from the character above than what would be ideal.

But it's close enough that I can live with it. Gernot's solution is 
acceptable after all... so long as I don't use punctuation. And 
besides... I don't mind people knowing I'm a gaijin.

Thank you guys for explaining what was going on with the fonts and encoding.

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Dave M G
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