RE: linux only with linux?

["Koji Hayakawa" <sylf00@example.com>]

ah, here we go:
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Linux-From-Scratch-HOWTO
(and they at least have HTML, pdf, and postscript version of the same
document at the same location too, if that attract you better)

-----Original Message-----
From: Koji Hayakawa [mailto:sylf00@example.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 9:27 PM
To: tlug@example.com
Subject: RE: linux only with linux?


Well, have you tried searching for some document about creating your own
distribution?  That's pretty much what you are doing.  I'm sure there are
great tips you can find at linuxdocs.org

-----Original Message-----
From: pietro zuco [mailto:pietrozuco@example.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:57 PM
To: tlug@example.com
Subject: Re: linux only with linux?


Hello Austin!
Thankyou very much for your support.
But anyway I want to do that. I don't worry if I will do that in a month, 6
month 1 year or 10 years, but I want to do that :)
I really like Linux and I would like to know only how can I start to do it
all by myself. I would like to documented it in every step so others can do
the same.

I don't like to install a distribution and after that I don't know how can I
use all that software and I don't know what all that software does. I'm sure
that maybe the 40% or more of all the software that I had installed I won't
use it. I know that there are a lot of documentation but I prefer to start
from the begining.

So please if you or someone else can tell me the first step I will continue
by myself.

Thanks in advance.
Pietro.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Kurahone" <austin@example.com>
To: <tlug@example.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: linux only with linux?

On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:43:13PM +0900, Viktor Pavlenko wrote:
> >>>>> "AK" == Austin Kurahone <austin@example.com> writes:
>
>     AK> On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 03:31:49PM +0100, pietro zuco wrote:
>     >> So if someone can, illuminate me please!
>     AK> Don't.  You'll be much happier.  Bootstrapping Linux is a
>     AK> painful expereince that should be avoided at all costs.
>
> Well why? Austine, illuminate us! Maybe it's the best way to learn
> UNIX
If you mean, learning more than you ever wanted to know about how a UNIX
system fits together, then yes, it is the best way that I've found to learn.

However that being said.
a) It's a largely unducumented process.  Or was, now there's Linux From
Scratch
and a few other things that will let you cookbook your way through the
process.
Figuring stuff out for yourself is a lot more educational but can be far
more
frustrating.

b) Even with documentation, a lot of the process is still convoluted.
Staying
up late into the night trying to figure out why g++ broke mysteriously or
doen't
compile is not a fun experience to most[1].

c) Once you do this, maintaining it is a constant expereince.  You can't
just go
and grab the latest RPMs/apt-get your way to happyness, you need to do it
all
by hand.  Not that this is a bad thing, but it might be too time consuming/
whatever for some.

c) NetBSD.

That being said, it is very educational.  Just something I wouldn't recoment
to
most.

--
Austin K. Kurahone
Tokyo Linux Users Group / SIGUSR1 R&D
Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!
"One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing
star!" --Nietzshe

[1]:Gcc refuses to build unpatched with glibc-2.2.  Patches are available
from
http://gcc.gnu.org naturally.


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