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- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>
- Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:40:10 +0900 (JST)
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Not really a Linux question, but the biggest concentration of net admins/security geeks I know is on TLUG. And it is making use of my Linux box difficult in mail applications. I'm having trouble with mail being intermittently refused from various sites because "Sender domain must exist." I believe these are all recent sendmail implementations (8.9 or 8.10). (What does sendmail use to make that check, gethostbyaddress()? Surely not auth.) It has happened with Japanese sites (in particular, TLUG), New Zealand (vuw.ac.jp), and US (best.com and lucent.com). The domain in question is my Linux box turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp. Its SOA is shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp. I've tried querying the remote nameservers for those domains with dig, and in general it seems that once the cached negative expires things work OK (both DNS and SMTP). Right now all of the above sites are apparently fine, except that one of the nameservers for vuw.ac.jp (ns1.waikato.ac.nz) can't find the ac.jp domain! (It just returns information for the jp domain's name servers and a null ANSWER field. Maybe it's set not to do recursive queries or something?) However, my mail is still being rejected at vuw.ac.nz, while the main departmental server got through. It turns out there are "internal" nameservers which reject my DNS queries (and one of which is the MX used by the ML I'm trying to post to). So I suspect that the internal nameserver cached the failed lookup result, but have no way to check it. The problems started on April 27 or 28, when my domain got accidentally deleted from the local DNS. That was fixed at about 6pm on the 28th, and normal service resumed (so I thought) on the evening of the 29th, when caches expired. However, service to all of the sites above has been intermittent since then, mostly things go through but every once in a while the DNS seems to fail again, starting on May 1. It's really annoying, since it means I can't send mail to those sites until the cache expires, usually in 24 hours. I have never managed to get a Tsukuba-dai server to deny that I exist since April 29, so I suspect some external problem, probably the Tsukuba-dai packet-filter. Coincidentally (?) on May 1 Tsukuba-dai started a packet-filter, but it does let udp/dns and tcp/auth queries through. Strangely enough, incoming tcp/dns is (according to the docs) blocked, as is all incoming ICMP and all incoming UDP except to the DNS port (which means I have to use TCP queries to remote nameservers). (If you have detailed well-informed comments about how stupid this all is, please do send them; I'll take your name off and forward them to the relevant committee.) Further details available if you think it's related and would help diagnose. Anybody have any idea what might be going on? Unfortunately, the local techs are not particularly clued in to the relevant RFCs, so they're not much help. And, no, they won't give me root so I can play with the DNS myself. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules." -------------------------------------------------------------------- Next Technical Meeting: May 13 (Sat) 13:30 Temple University Japan * Topic: Crypto and Security Speaker: Chris Sekiya Next Nomikai Meeting: June 16 (Fri), Tengu TokyoEkiMae. -------------------------------------------------------------------- more info: http://www.tlug.gr.jp Sponsor: Global Online Japan
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