Re: [tlug] But too much logs kills the logs: How to Grok Logs

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>]

Bruno Raoult writes:

 > > Moreover, if someone gave a technical talk, I don't think
 > > TLUG "owns" the materials.

No, they don't.  By the Berne Convention, the author owns the
presentation and all the supporting materials.  For spontaneous
recorded speech (eg, Q&A), the speker owns his or her words.

 > > So, if you're thinking you can just go to TLUG and download
 > > things and translate them without asking the person who made
 > > them, then you might be making a mistake...Ray

If one thinks that having it on TLUG means permission is given, it's
definitely a mistake.  If one thinks that TLUG speakers are unlikely
to complain if one assumes that permission would be given, but doesn't
bother to get it, that's probably not a mistake.  (But it's rude to do
that.  Good luck getting favors from me in the future if I catch you
using my material without telling me first, and in idiomatic American
that's normally expressed as a request for permission such as "I hope
you won't mind if ...".  N.B. The answer in idiomatic American is
nearly forced to be "of course not", but some people are jerks.)

 > I was hoping that people making a speech would make it "free"
 > (as "free speech"), as well as supporting documents...

Not a chance with my stuff; it's at best CC-BY-NC (Creative Commons
license with the "by attribution" and "no commercial use" clauses
invoked -- the latter makes it non-free).  Supporting documents, I'd
probably do if asked, in most cases.

 > PS. It is interesting to see some technical TLUG video on Youtube,
 > Video (including presentations by Stephen). But no support available...
 > So video is public, and *only* video...
 > Public, or not public??

No, it's not "public".  It's owned by the author(s).  It's probably
technically copyright infringement to put it up on YouTube, but since
that's been the practice for a while TLUG can probably argue that they
have grounds to assume permission.  Of course, if they don't have it
in writing and the speaker complains, the video will be taken down.

 > PS. I am no more living in Japan, so I am surely not at the right place
 > to discuss "politics", but, except in case of external speakers, who could
 > have some reasons to preserve some rights, wouldn’t a good idea to
 > publish all the support documents?

How would you suggest doing that?  The speakers generally show up with
either a notebook or a USB stick, and leave with it.  TLUG doesn't
have access to the documents in the first place.